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Getting Ready for the Switch From Classic to Orion

ManageWP release date

July 12 is approaching, and I wanted to write an article about what you and other ManageWP subscribers can expect to happen, and how to get the most out of this transition.

I’ll break the article down into three parts:

  • The current status
  • July 12, the Orion launch
  • August 1 and beyond

The Current Status

Right now our feature set has been locked in. Multisite support will be added by the end of this week, email & event notifications in the next week. I published a detailed article about the July 12 launch, and another one that talks about the pricing update and our bundles.

The TL;DR version of the pricing update goes like this: we tried very hard to keep the ManageWP prices in the same ballpark, even though the operating cost is higher than in the Classic version. You’ve got two pricing models at your disposal that you can mix and match however you see fit:

  • Per website pricing is more flexible and perfect for people managing up to 25 websites
  • Bundles are for people managing 25+ websites, they come in blocks of 100 websites and have a fixed price

July 12

We picked Tuesday for the launch because you’re always super busy on Monday, and we want to make the transition as smooth as possible.

Your legacy plan will remain active

You based your business on the Classic payment model, and any abrupt changes would jeopardize your business. We know and respect that, that’s why you can remain on the legacy plan indefinitely. Once you decide that switching to the Orion pricing model might be a good idea, you can start using it for a couple of sites without having to cancel your legacy plan, and gradually switch to the new model at your pace.

Here’s what each of the three plans will get in Orion.

Standard

  • Monthly Scheduled Backup, with manual backups (this is the custom version of the Scheduled Backup tool that reflect the functionality of the Standard plan in the Classic version)

Professional

  • Daily Scheduled Backup, with manual backups and cloning
  • Advanced Client Report

Business

  • Daily Scheduled Backup, with manual backups and cloning
  • Advanced Client Report
  • SEO Ranking
  • Uptime Monitor
  • White Label

The mirror and the Classic dashboard will still be here

For now, the mirror and the Classic dashboard will be available, in case you still want to use something on the old dashboard, or maybe upgrade your legacy plan.

You can now add websites to Orion, for free

The option to add a website in Orion will go live. Websites added in Orion dashboard will be on the Orion pricing model, and will not be mirrored back into Classic (because the number of websites in Classic is limited by your plan). If you want that website on a legacy plan, you’ll have to add it in the Classic dashboard. 

Orion pricing model will go live, but you won’t be charged

So far everything has been free of charge in Orion. On July 12 the pricing model will go live. Using Orion until August 1 is completely free, but if you want to turn on a premium tool, you will be asked to enter your payment card. This is because we’ve had a lot of abuse in the past, with people endlessly cycling through Trial accounts so they could clone and back up websites for free. We wanted to stop the bad practice without punishing everyone, so we did 3 things: we built a strong and usable free tier, a pay-as-you-go pricing, and we’re collecting the payment data at the moment when you start using premium tools.

New ManageWP website

The new website will focus only on the Orion features. We’re also upgrading our blog to make it easier for you to find relevant articles and guides. We’ve also recorded a bunch of videos that show you how to get the most out of each ManageWP tool.

Orion dashboard is now the default one

New users, and those currently on the Free plan, will only be able to access the Orion dashboard. If you still use the Classic dashboard, don’t worry: you’ll be given the option to switch back to Classic when you log in.

Lifetime discounts will be honored

Hey, a promise is a promise! Just bear in mind that a lot of you will also get a loyalty discount (10% for each full year as a ManageWP subscriber, up to 30%), but the loyalty discount does not stack with the lifetime discount.

Domains become websites

In Classic, the plan limit was calculated on a domain basis. So, if you had example.com and store.example.com, it was considered as a single domain. This posed a huge problem with the Orion pricing model, so we switched back to the per website model. Each WordPress installation is treated as a website. Each subsite in a multisite network is treated as a separate website. Since you can add an unlimited number of websites into Orion for free, in 99% of the cases this shouldn’t be a problem. However, if you have e.g. Professional (10) plan and 30 websites on your Classic dashboard, all 30 of them will be on the legacy plan in Orion, but you won’t be able to add more websites to the legacy plan until you remove the excess websites.

August 1 and Beyond

The Orion pricing model starts working

If you’ve turned on premium tools or bundles in July, the system will start tracking usage from August 1. Since this is a postpaid model, you will be billed on September 1.

Your legacy and Orion pricing are separate

Classic subscriptions are on BlueSnap, Orion is on Stripe. Each has its own cycle, rules and the active card. If you want to move everything to a single invoice, I recommend cancelling your legacy plan and moving everything to Orion.

Cancelling your legacy plan

When you cancel your legacy plan, you still get to use it until the next renewal. If you’d like your money back, or if you’d like to transfer the pro-rated credit to Orion, just open a support ticket and we’ll make it happen.

Disabling the mirror

You’re done with Classic, and don’t need the mirror? Since having a mirror means that any websites on a legacy plan need to be added through Classic, soon after August 1 we’ll work on a way for each user to turn off the mirror and shut down his Classic dashboard. At that point you’ll still be able to retain your legacy plan, but you’ll add and manage everything exclusively from Orion.

In Summary

In case you skimmed through the article, here’s the most important info:

  • You’ll keep your legacy plan for as long as you’d like
  • From July 12 to August 1 you can play around with Orion tools for free
  • You can add as many websites to Orion as you’d like
  • Mirror and the Classic dashboard will be around for a while

Let me know if you have any additional questions, so I could update the article and help make the transition smoother.

Thank you for helping us make Orion what it is today, and what it will be in the future!

Nemanja Aleksic Avatar

28 responses

  1. vee@vrdesigns.co.uk Avatar
    vee@vrdesigns.co.uk

    I can’t wait, I’ve been using Orion and love it.

    When will the add new website function start working?

  2. Alex Avatar
    Alex

    On the roadmap or the list of available features, is there a request to include “new posts” that were published within a certain date selection? I would love to have the ability to include that in the client report for the 4 posts with a clickable link and a featured photo included in the report.

    Thanks!

  3. 1lifeincome@gmail.com Avatar
    1lifeincome@gmail.com

    Quite Frankly you guys Save my ass Time wise!…….I’m Glad I found You + this is Not a Plug!

  4. lori@xtramark.com Avatar
    lori@xtramark.com

    Is there a way to port the Google Analytics login/access data from Classic to Orion? That would save a lot of manual configuration time. Please?

  5. benz1 Avatar
    benz1

    Looking forward to the switch but it’s a little confusing, especially with all the information and pricing, etc, split over multiple posts. All I want to know if what I need to do after 12 July. I currently have the Classic plan and am on the Orion beta.
    1. Will my current Orion account become my main account or will a new account be setup and need to manually transfer sites over?
    2. Payment for July has already been made so can I cancel my classic account now and use Orion only from 1 Aug?
    3. If I cancel my Classic account now will loyalty/lifetime discounts still be applied to the Orion account?

    Can I suggest you publish one post will all the relevant information and instructions (keeping it as brief and succinct as possible as we are all busy and have already spent too much time reading all the posts and trying to understand them)?

    Thanks.

  6. d Avatar
    d

    I have canceled. Too much.

  7. timjjefferson@gmail.com Avatar
    timjjefferson@gmail.com

    I’m due for renewal by the 9th July. Do I just renew as normal and then convert fully to Orion (which I want to do – it’s awesome)? I won’t need the advanced reports though, so this may smooth out the pricing in my situation. I’ve no idea what the price difference is between 5 websites on ‘professional legacy’ and 5 websites on ‘daily backup – Orion’. I think it would be similar over the year.

  8. ian@addedlovely.com Avatar
    ian@addedlovely.com

    Can we get excluding folder back in the clone tool before launch. Migrating staging copies without wp-content/uploads is not possible in Orion.
    Thanks!

  9. golfandcasting Avatar
    golfandcasting

    I currently have 6 websites on the Professional plan. The only reason I have the professional plan is to integrate with Google Analytics. And I really only need Google Analytics on 3 or 4 of the sites. I would like to switch to Orion, but it appears that there is no advantage for me to do that. If I understand this correctly, I would still need the professional plan for more than 5 sites and to have the analytics. Your explanation here makes it sound like everything is on per website basis, but doesn’t that really only apply to the premium features?

  10. wordpress@helloinnovation.com Avatar
    wordpress@helloinnovation.com

    “You can remain on the legacy plan indefinitely. Once you decide that switching to the Orion pricing model might be a good idea, you can start using it for a couple of sites without having to cancel your legacy plan, and gradually switch to the new model at your pace.”

    In such a case, must all new sites be added to Orion?

  11. Karl Avatar
    Karl

    Always amazed at how far you’ll go in trying to provide a commercial and technical development, but still make sure that the vast majority of your customers don’t end up having to pay a higher premium – often it seems like it will end up cheaper, with many free features. Kudos on you and best of luck with the transition next week.

  12. ealexis@topnews.gr Avatar
    ealexis@topnews.gr

    We can post the same article to multiple sites with orion?

  13. Alex Avatar
    Alex

    Thanks for replying, sorry I didn’t see this until now. Yes, I publish content for my clients and it would be great to be able to show off what we published within that month for them. If it were possible I think it would be very cool to include:

    – Thumbnail of the featured image used (if there isn’t a featured image then have the system put in an blog icon as a placeholder)
    – The article title that’s clickable to the post on the website
    – The date that it was published
    – The categories that were used on the article

  14. dc@loxly.com Avatar
    dc@loxly.com

    I won’t be able to switch until bulk posting is enabled in Orion. It is the main reason I found and signed up for ManageWP.

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