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The Ultimate Orion Pricing Guide

orion pricing

(Edit: We’ve edited the post to better answer some of the questions found in comments)

With Orion launch just around the corner (scheduled July 12th) we wanted to answer some of the questions you had with the new product.

Let’s outline the biggest differences and how will they affect you.

ManageWP Orion is free for unlimited websites

Gone is the 5 free websites limit. Add your entire website portfolio and enjoy the best management tools in class. This also means you can bring all your subdomains and staging sites on board.

ManageWP Orion free feature set is greatly increased compared to ManageWP Classic

Previously paid tools like Sub-users (now called Collaborators), Manage users, Maintenance mode, Google Analytics and Code snippets are now completely free. We’ve even included a monthly cloud backup and basic client reports completely free of charge too.

All other free tools you love and use (like updates, plugin and theme management, security and performance scanning…) are there as well and have undergone a major overhaul to be better and easier to use.

New pricing model for premium add-ons

ManageWP Orion will start with five premium add-ons that you can enable on per website basis. These tools are:

  • Orion cloud backups – incremental backups with safe, off-site storage and website migration – starting at $2/month for daily backups
  • White label, SEO, Uptime monitor, Advanced Client Reports – each add-on at only $1/month

To reduce your bill in case you manage greater number of websites you can enable an add-on bundle – a flat monthly fee for up to 100 websites.

Here is a summary of our pricing.

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Transferring your Legacy Subscription

We will honor all current ManageWP subscribers and allow you to transfer your legacy subscription to ManageWP Orion.

This means that you will have premium add-ons available as a special ‘Legacy Bundle’ at your current price and website limit.

Business gets these Orion premium add-ons: Daily Orion Backups, SEO Ranking, White Label, Uptime Monitor, Advanced Client Reports
Professional gets these Orion premium add-ons: Daily Orion Backups, Advanced Client Reports
Standard gets these Orion premium add-ons: Monthly Orion Backup

July is free to play

Although the billing will be enabled on July 12th, we will not charge you for any use in July. August will be the first month when usage will be billed and since Orion switched to post-paid model (from pre-paid in Classic) your first charge will be September the 5th (for August usage).

I have brought with me some template users (or as I call them my imaginary friends), to demonstrate the effect of changes. Each character that you will meet has a different pricing plan in ManageWP Classic, and they switch to the equivalent in Orion.

Meet Emma

Emma is a loyal ManageWP user, she has been using ManageWP for over 2 years and is currently managing 15 websites. The main thing she uses ManageWP for is updates, easy accessibility to all websites, and she really makes the most out of the 1-click login and 1-click updates. She has great hosting that handles her backups, so she doesn’t have to think about them. She does not use the ManageWP backup. Her choice of plan is the Standard (15), and her costs are $10/month.

Switching to Orion

When Emma switches to Orion, she will save herself $10/month, $120/year which is around 57 cups of Starbucks coffee. On the new Orion dashboard, she can access all of her websites and add an unlimited number of them for free, as well as run updates at no additional cost. She now also gets Manage Users and Collaborators, Google Analytics, and Code Snippets for free. With all the extra coffee she will get to drink and her websites being easily managed Emma will be even more productive with Orion.

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Meet Noah

I never have favourites when it comes to my imaginary friends, but if I did it would be Noah. He is a web developer and he offers a maintenance service for the websites that he built. For this reason he needs to make sure he has daily backups in case anything goes wrong, and Uptime Monitor that keeps him informed on the websites status. He need these features on 8 websites. On ManageWP he decided to go for the Business (10), that costs him $42/month.

Switching to Orion

The Orion switch has come at a great time for him, as it will save him $18/month, so he can save money for the new xbox Resident Evil 5 that’s coming out coincidentally the same time as Orion, July 12. He decided to go for the Scheduled Backup ($2 per website, total of $16 for 8 websites) and also the Uptime Monitor ($1 per website, total of $8 for 8 websites), which brings him to $24/month. That’s $216 saved in one year!

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Meet Sophia

Sophia has always been the smart one at school, and today she builds websites for a living. She also has a lot of friends that she helps out, and keeps an eye on a couple of their websites pro bono. For the 3 websites she built she needs backups and the clone tool, and for the other 4 pro bono she is happy with basic maintenance. Her choice is the Professional (7) that costs her $16.50.

Switching to Orion

The great thing about building websites is that Sophia can go shopping in the morning when it’s not busy, and now she can spend the extra $10.50 that she saves with Orion on a new tank top. In Orion she customized her plan to suit her needs, so for the 3 websites she built she picked the premium Scheduled Backup feature that costs her $2/websites, 6$ for all three. The other 4 websites she maintains, she doesn’t need any premium features for so she can make the most out of the free features in Orion.

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Meet Liam

Liam takes website management to a new level, he runs a white label WordPress maintenance business, with 90 websites in his care. He needs to have Scheduled Backups, Uptime Monitor, Client Reports, and the White Label feature. With this many features he decided to pay for the Business (100) that costs him a whooping $240/month.

Switching to Orion

Liam can’t afford to drop the quality of his service, so needs to make sure that he includes all of the same features in his Orion package. And he needs to get it sorted quick, as he is off on holiday with his wife and kids, and doesn’t want to worry about his business while away. So, he chooses the Backup bundle ($75 for up to 100 websites), Uptime Monitor bundle ($25 for up to 100 websites), Advanced Client Report bundle ($25 for up to 100 websites), and White Label bundle ($25 for up to 100 websites). This takes him to $150/month, saving him $90 each month, $1080/year enough to take his family for another getaway weekend.

Thank god for the bundle system, this way he can add another 10 websites to his business and not worry about the price changing.

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Meet Olivia and Peter

Olivia is the CEO of WebsiteOlive, a multi tiered web services company. She started her business with her boyfriend, Peter, and they have 120 websites on the basic tier that covers Scheduled Backups and regular updates. The middle tier has 70 websites, which covers the same services as the basic, plus Uptime Monitor. Peter also insisted they have a top tier that for now has only 10 websites, but this covers all of the middle and bottom tier services, as well as SEO Ranking services. They decided it was best to opt for two plans, Professional (150) and Business (100), which costs them $372/month.

Switching to Orion

At first Olivia and Peter were slightly overwhelmed with the switch and the thought of having to work out the pricing again. However, the bundles in Orion made things a lot easier. They decided to get the Backup bundle ($75 for up to 100 websites, a total of $150 for two bundles) and the Uptime Monitor bundle ($25 for up to 100 websites). For Peter’s top tier clients they paid for SEO Ranking per site, which cost them ($1/website) $10 for all sites. By switching to Orion they are now paying $185/month and saving $187/month which is more than 50%!

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Meet Kevin and Sasha

Kevin has been using ManageWP for over 5 years, and has added all of his websites to the dashboard. He has a marketing agency and his sister, Sasha, has a website maintenance business that has taken off in the past few years. They use one ManageWP account for both of their businesses, and they have 500 websites on the Business (500) that costs them $420/month. Sasha, needs to make sure she has all of the premium features for her business, whereas Kevin uses some of them on occasion, for instance the SEO Ranking tool is not his priority.

Switching to Orion

Kevin and Sasha came to realise that by switching to Orion, the same features would cost them $750 (All-in-one package X5), costing them an additional $330/month. By getting the All-in-one package they saved $48.50 on the package discounts. They discussed not choosing certain features for all of the websites, for example Kevin could not include SEO Ranking for certain clients. However, they decided that they needed all of them to maintain the quality of their business.

Their solution to compensate for the additional cost, is to start offering their clients the higher quality Orion features for a higher price. For example, the incremental Scheduled Backup. Having a more powerful dashboard, that offers features like Advanced Client Reports that integrate all of the features in one report, means they can increase the value of their business. Advanced Client Reports have everything nicely packaged for their clients, including Uptime Monitor, SEO, Backups, Updates, Analytics, Security and Performance. This not only evened out their costs, but brought in new high-end clients.

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Meet Nicola

Nicola after working as an English teacher for 20 years quit her job, and decided to open up a Content Marketing Agency. Her business grew fast, and soon she found herself with 10 websites on the Professional (10) paying $21/month. She switched to the Professional, because she needed to use Client Reports, as she started monitoring her clients websites, as well as doing copywriting and blogging for them. She offers a great backup solution, always keeps them up to date with their website and writes content. As the business grew she hired young students to help her write high quality content, and that part of her business takes up most of her time. What makes her business specific is that she can charge much more for the additional website maintenance services.

Switching to Orion

When the Orion switch came, her costs went up to $30. Her monthly costs went up by $9. She decided that it was essential to keep the same service for her clients, so she opted for Scheduled Backups ($2 for 10 websites $20),  and the Advanced Client Report, at the price of $10 ($1 per website). Because of the nature of her business, where she brings added value to her clients with ManageWP, she was able to increase the price of her services. Also, switching to Orion, as adding websites to Orion is free for an unlimited number, she was able to add an extra 20 websites that she maintains pro bono for her family and friends.

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Conclusion

Now after meeting all my friends hopefully you are able to find yourself in a similar situation as one of them. Try to identify which one of my friends uses ManageWP in the same way as you, and that way you can have a good idea of how to switch to our new pricing, as well as the costs you can expect.

Just to recap how our pricing and bundles work. The main thing to remember is that you will pay only if you enabled premium add-ons on a site, that way you avoid paying for features that you are not going to use. The bundles have been introduced, to make things cheaper for those of you with lots of websites. Tons of features as well as unlimited websites now comes free!

If there is someone (a specific user type) that I haven’t mentioned, or still there are unclear case scenarios, let me know and we can bring another person to the party, the more the merrier!

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77 responses

  1. ARS Cons. Avatar
    ARS Cons.

    Poor Kevin and Sasha, who have to manually generate 500 client reports every month, and key in every client’s email info…

  2. m2@m2ads.com Avatar
    m2@m2ads.com

    where i purchase this orion now? only day 12?

  3. Annie Avatar
    Annie

    That’s great to have free monthly backups for those sites that rarely change. Can you clone from this free backup, or just restore?

  4. jeff Avatar
    jeff

    Assumes that orion was not available. When in fact, it always was, with included backups, uptimes, stats, etc.
    Suggest that the managewp really look hard at pricing- back in the day, vendors did this style of pricing- base price plus add ons, huge revolt- people hate getting nickeled and dimed. Now everyone in the SaaS world is flat pricing, 3 tiers, that’s it. I am and have found alternative at cheaper price than I am paying now.

  5. seb.delrue@gmail.com Avatar
    seb.delrue@gmail.com

    So…
    Not sur if i understand correctly.

    I managed 35 Website with backup + uptime. I paid 60$ actually (Professional Plan).
    With Orion :
    35*2 (backup)+35*1 (uptime) = 105$ ?
    Or 100$ for the backup and uptime premium. Still 40$ more than actually :/
    Or 150$ for the full bundle…for 100 website, but it’s 55 website too much.

    Hope i misunderstood 🙁

  6. dan_green@ncsu.edu Avatar
    dan_green@ncsu.edu

    How are websites counted? In the current version of the software, test.ncsu.edu and test2.ncsu.edu, only take up one license. Does Orion count this as one or two?

  7. ShariLee Beynon Avatar
    ShariLee Beynon

    Why can’t you just make a presentation side-by-side so it wouldn’t be so confusing to decide which of your categories I would like to use? I went through
    those boxes above, and it is TMI! Thanks, ShariLee

  8. eric@nodinx.com Avatar
    eric@nodinx.com

    The top infographic helps a lot but if you changed your infographic titles, you could be much clearer I think. Like this:

    “Premium Addons /month” —> “Premium Addons. Priced per month, per install.”
    “Premium Bundles /month” —> “Premium Bundles. Price per month for up to 100 installs.”

    This is much clearer to me.

    So what happens after the switch? When I log in on Wednesday, all our sites will still have backups active as long as we have already configured the backups in the Orion mirror, correct? We have the ManageWP Classic Professional 30 site package. Looks like our cost will go up a bit to keep automatic backups for all 30 sites :/ $45 now to $60.

  9. S Chello Avatar
    S Chello

    Can you please just list the costs for features and bundles somewhere and both a straight up page without the sales story BS? I just wasted 10 minutes of my lie reading this and still know nothing of how the new pricing will affect my status.

  10. Amy Avatar
    Amy

    Will we get an email letting us know our price if we continue using what we have? I have a LOT of sites in Manage WP and I can’t tell which one of these plans is going to match up with me but it seems like my pricing could triple what I pay now! That’s very disconcerting after having been a loyal client for so many years.

  11. edigest Avatar
    edigest

    I don’t see legacy discounts mentioned. Has that quietly disappeared or will our discount survive the move to Orion?

  12. danna@dlmwebdevelopment.com Avatar
    danna@dlmwebdevelopment.com

    I’m still tripping on this sentence…. you can have a good idea of *how* to switch to our new pricing.

    How exactly? How do I select a bundles? How do I select which sites need which add-on products?
    I don’t see any options in my current subscription that allows me to check off what I want or don’t want.
    Perhaps they will be available on the 12th?

  13. Kristoff.henry@telenet.be Avatar
    Kristoff.henry@telenet.be

    I appreciate your efforts guys to make this clearer, but unfortunately this post misses its goal.

    What I am interested in is to CLEARLY understand what this means for my situation, not the situation of your imaginary friends that are handpicked to come out good and save tons of money in 5 out of 7 situations. The idea to document your new pricing structure with imaginary cases is fine, but then your initial information should be clear, concise and easy to understand in the first place.

    I am not sure how much time I have spent over the last months trying to grasp what the switch will mean to me, and more importantly to figure out -with the changes – if Orion will be the platform that I will continue to use as my company grows.

    To me – and apparently to others too – it is still not clear what functionality will be left over in the free version and what will be a paid feature. Things like cloning, manual backups, subdomains as staging sites etc … How does this all translate to Orion? A clear (albeit long) feature list with what is included in what version/add-on is what I am missing.
    And I haven’t touched on migration strategy for existing customers.

    Honestly, I am considering to no longer spend my valuable time on trying to figure this out, but figure out alternative strategies an solutions to take my company into the future.

  14. vee@vrdesigns.co.uk Avatar
    vee@vrdesigns.co.uk

    Agree with other posters, that was a total waste of time.

    We’re not confused because we’re idiots, we’re confused because you’ve set up a confusing pricing schedule.

    Telling us stories is a bit condescending in my opinion :-/

  15. ianscktt@gmail.com Avatar
    ianscktt@gmail.com

    I may have missed this in the huge post above – but….you previously said existing customers would be grandfathered in:

    ———
    ‘We’re grandfathering all active subscribers. As long as your Classic subscription is active, you’ll get what you paid for. Your plans will work the same way they do now, and the legacy plans will have the following Orion tools:

    Business: Daily Orion Backups, SEO Ranking, White Label, Uptime Monitor
    Professional: Daily Orion Backups
    Standard: Manual only Orion Backups (not available as a separate tool)’

    ———

    Is this still the case ?

    I am a professional customer with 27 websites paying $21 (exc VAT) a month currently, using a daily Orion backup, that should stay the same price right ?

    Ian

  16. 1lifeincome@gmail.com Avatar
    1lifeincome@gmail.com

    Just an FYI………i did not feel as if i was being sold to or being talking down to. Your product has helped me tremendously. My time is Valuable!

  17. info@vergedesign.co.uk Avatar
    info@vergedesign.co.uk

    Hello Nevena. I understand that each scenario in regards to cost is different depending on how you use Orion, but I would just like to say that you have done a great job with Orion.

    And whereas some might find the article above condesending, it was actually a brilliant way to put costs into a real world perspective.

    Thanks again, and remember that every negative comment you receive… There are 10 more people who appreciate what you do but don’t hav time to pen it. Keep up the good work.

  18. leewatanabecrockett@gmail.com Avatar
    leewatanabecrockett@gmail.com

    Nevena, thanks for your article and great attitude! Orion is light years ahead of the Classic environment. It’s a whole new product and so much more stable than the Classic. I have a lot of confidence in the platform, which I never did with Classic. I haven’t even looked at Classic for month. Free, $10, $50/month, honestly we are talking about such a small amount of money for such great features that it doesn’t matter. The time savings from managing a dozen sites easily from one place is worth it. I appreciate that you have made so many options. Nothing worse than paying for a bunch of features you’ll never use—like when they want to bundle home phone in with internet and cable—who uses a land line? Great features here, great product, great pricing. Congrats on a job well done. Look forward to Monday.

  19. natebald Avatar
    natebald

    Hi, quick question, will the bundles be eligible for the legacy discounts?

    To me the rest is pretty straight forward, I was once nervous about the pricing, but the more I follow it and the more your explain, the more comfortable I am. The short of it is, your product make me money, for that I am grateful.

  20. Theresa Jennings Avatar
    Theresa Jennings

    Your image of the prices is pretty unreadable for me. The personas are confusing. Is there a place where we can see the prices, minus the personas, where it’s easy to read?

  21. jonathan@jonathannicol.com Avatar
    jonathan@jonathannicol.com

    My only disappointment in all of this is that when Orion’s pricing was initially announced there was a $1/month option for weekly backup frequency, which has been quietly removed.

  22. Todd Avatar
    Todd

    a pricing table would be helpful. It took a few minutes to realize that my cost is going to go up by 150%!

    In your examples, you jump from 7 websites to 90! what about us who have 30? I’ll go from $30/month to $90 with backups and uptime monitoring.

    I use ManageWP primarily for cloning and backups. I use the backups primarily to make sure that i can roll back from many failed cloning processes.

  23. cami@webcami.com Avatar
    cami@webcami.com

    What is the different between a basic client report (free version) and the advanced client report? Are you going to have Orion tutorials soon? I appreciate the time to figure this all out.

  24. Reiner Knudsen Avatar
    Reiner Knudsen

    After you edited this post it is much clearer and I more easily get to the information I need. Thanks.

    Unlike others who are unhappy with the pricing model – you just CAN’T get everybody happy – I like the model. I am on a business account with currently just 5 sites to manage. i love the features, the reliability of your service, the dashboard, everything. Give me a native iOS app for management on the road and I will be completely happy 🙂 I am more than willing to pay for the service. It saved me multiple times.

  25. info@hindrikraap.nl Avatar
    info@hindrikraap.nl

    I thought 12 July was the scheduled release date. Is it already aired and if so, how can I set it up. I am now still limited to five sites.

    Thank you for the great work!

  26. Purple Dog Avatar
    Purple Dog

    So how do I actually switch? Looking at my account there seems to be no options in either dashboard?

  27. jai@jaijo.com Avatar
    jai@jaijo.com

    Top work. I’m on a free account, wanting to start paying via Orion, but “ManageWP Orion is not available to free users. Please upgrade your subscription to gain ManageWP Orion access” – Do i have to sign up on the old payment method prior to moving across to Orion?

    Can’t wait guys, been really keen to get signed up. Great work.

  28. webmaster@forkandknife.com Avatar
    webmaster@forkandknife.com

    Hi!

    How do we switch from ManageWP to Orion?

    I’m using Orion, and I love it. The only issue is I can’t add more than 15 websites to it because that’s my limit in ManageWP. How do I get to access the unlimited amount of websites?

  29. danna@dlmwebdevelopment.com Avatar
    danna@dlmwebdevelopment.com

    Ok, so I did my price comparison…
    I have 125 sites I actively manage and a 150 site plan. To get the complete bundles on ALL websites is an additional $262.94 per year over what I’m currently paying.

    On the downside, it is additional money, and I’m probably paying for more than I need, as not all clients need the complete suite of products.

    On the upside, the additional cost is roughly 2 1/2 hours of my time – over a YEAR. Since I use Manage WP on a daily basis, not only for plugin updates, but alerts, spam deletion, a few backups, as well as the heavy lifting of cloning websites, I’m guessing that the product saves me on average 2 hours of time PER WEEK. I’ll gladly make that trade.

    Further, I’m running a business, and I offer my clients the ability to opt-in or opt-out of my ongoing security updates and maintenance. I charge a very modest amount, but even then, it more than covers what I pay for ManageWP. I consider this product to be a necessity to run my business efficiently.

    I understand that charge is hard, and change is confusing, but I think the MWP team has made a sincere effort to try to explain and price it fairly. Further, their support is outstanding. Seriously outstanding. So I encourage folks to get past any initial sticker shock and think through the issues and benefits, and how the product fits in with running their business.

    Just showin’ some love and givin’ credit where credit is due….

  30. qbuster Avatar
    qbuster

    Well, I must say that I am surprised that some of us find the pricing confusing and the explanations patronising.

    As I understand it – the basic rule is that you can have as many free sites as you like with an impressive standard set of features. If you need more features and/or greater flexibility, then you pay for that.

    Importantly, you can have a mixture of free sites and, where you or your client need more features, you can give those sites with extra (paid-for) functionality. Also, and this is the really clever point, if you later decide you want to reduce the extras on one or more sites, you just switch them off.

    If you are still confused, then just go for the the unlimited free sites option until you understand how, why and when you can benefit by paying for the extra features. For me its as simple as that.

    Well done to the ManageWP team – you’ve given most of us an opportunity to save money in a market place that is usually characterised by rising costs! Just brilliant!

    Cheers – from one very happy chappy!

    Will

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